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 Correspondence between Roland Michel Tremblay and

William Taggart 

 

TIME DENSITY AND MASS ( TDM )

 

This correspondence with William Taggart is very important to my ideas. He is the only person who shares my ideas even though he appears to have pushed everything much further than me. He has the physics and maths background to develop applications based on my and his theories.

 

Sometimes it seems that I copied some parts of our conversation again and again, but this is only to keep the rythm of the conversation. It was made by emails and we keep coming back to certain points.

 

All of my talkings start with ------, then =====, then ++++++, then ......., then //////, etc.

 

Roland Michel Tremblay

rm@themarginal.com

Return to my theories: www.themarginal.com/relativity.htm

My novel: www.themarginal.com/universe.htm

____________________________________

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thurlby Computers 
Sent: 28 March 2002 23:07
To: rm@themarginal.com
Subject: (Speculative) but you may find it interesting (In HTML format)

 


Ideas Unlimitedtm 1984-2002
Thurlby Computers

 

Hi,

 

I was busy surfin' around various science sites when I found yours. I have been quite surprised to see just how many publications and websites had been inspired, by my relative scale approach to the universe back in the late 1970's.

 

After reading some of the contents of the site  I thought   you may find this little bit of speculative conjecture interesting :)

 

It allows infinite finite relativity, without altering any of the basic laws of physics.

 

 

You may notice that there are some unique mathematical symbols here, I have described them for you.

 

1.    

 

2.    

 

3.   

 

4.   

 

 

These 4 equations are the variations of the same theme. Basically they represent.

 

1. The obtained interaction with a given density per volume of space when decompression occurs of the original density per volume of space.

2. As above in reverse. Basically they are exactly the same thing.

3. In this case the given resistance on an object alter its density to that of a new location of interaction

4. The same as equation 3 but in reverse.

 

As you are fully aware that can be represented in just 2 equations.

 

Actually there is a deliberate mistake there. As when the given state increases in density you should subtract the value of 1 from the total. This value of 1 represents our current finite universe.

 

= The obtained TDM (Time density & Mass) state, or scale multiple of our finite universe.

= Lambda or the surrounding relative space.

 = The resistance acting upon the given object or volume of space.

M = the Given object.

 

 

 

This is an equation which return the pseudo superluminal velocity compared to your current relative TDM state (Finite universe). 

 

= obtained pseudo superluminal velocity, theoretical multiples of relative light velocity.

 

 

 

This is a variation on a well known equation which returns the pseudo energy value in Ergs. Or in classical physics terms when this equations are combine into a process it returns the principle of relative infinite energy.

 

Relative infinite energy= What appears to be infinite to our finite universe, however as I am sure you are aware this is not true infinity.

 

 

These equations allow you do something which physicists like to say is impossible. To plot and co-ordinates and show the given energy level of a an object in relative  terms anywhere in an infinite space time continuum.

 

The odd thing about it is that it fully complies and does not require you to re-write the laws of physics.

 

Basically It is a measuring process known as TDM (Time density & Mass). A sort of glorified tape measure. That allows you to theoretically plot any location  infinity. Although in reality you can't ever complete such task for every possible value as it would take an infinity to do so.

 

To explain but more simply what TDM does is to theoretically generate infinite parallel finite universes. There is nothing new in that multiverse theories have been around for some time. The difference with TDM is that it applies Density per volume. In other words one universe exists inside the other.

 

Another description is like a Russian doll, if you open it up you find another which is smaller inside, open that ands you find another yet smaller and so on.

 

What TDM exploits is a theoretical physical interpretation of one of Zeno's paradox's, Ulysses and the Arrow ( Which I am sure you are familiar with)

 

Basically Zeno said that if Ulysses stood at a given point ( Which I will call point (a) ) and fired an arrow to a target (Which I will call point (b) ).  The then the flight of the arrow would be the full distance away from the target  (point (a) to point  (b).

 

As the arrow flew through the air it would be 1/2 the distance from point (b) , then 1/4 the distance form point (b) , 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 and so on for infinity,

 

What Zeno said it when does the arrow reach zero and hit the target  (Point (b) )

 

If fact it never does!

 

There has been many attempts to interpret this in physical terms over the many years since he produced it.

 

However to this date nobody else has been able to represent it in physical form.

 

As you are aware, The Arrow never actually hits the target. It is only because our finite range of observation cannot see the other instances of space time that we get the illusion that it has. To make it even more awkward to understand the arrow never actually flew in the first place, but that is another level of understanding which can be a very steep learning curve. (I will assume however that you do understand it anyway)

 

Now if you replaced the ever smaller distances with scale representation of that given point of space time then the points of interaction begin to make sense however on the larger scale. In  TDM we use the finite universe as the scale increment of measurement . Although the difference between one point in space time and the next is the equivalent of an entire relative universe.

 

To describe simply TDM states that our finite universe is TDM state zero or  0

 

Higher density or smaller scale finite universes are  1, 2,3, 4, 5, 6 , 7 and so on infinitely

 

Lower density or larger scale finite universes are  -1, -2,-3, -4, -5, -6 , -7 and so on infinitely.

 

I originally created TDM when I found that science became so vague when it hit this physical point of Zero or in other terms crosses the event horizon. In other words no way exists to describe such state of matter in relative finite physical terms.

 

What I wasn't expecting when I created it was to find the way to quantify gravity, explain the principles of space time, to produce situations that should defy causality but they don't , to describe infinity in finite terms etc etc etc, the uses of TDM are as infinite as that which it allows you to describe.

 

This just skims the surface of what TDM is and what it can do in conjunction with Classical physics. 

 

As an example of an interesting prediction that TDM makes, anti gravity is easier to achieve by increasing the gravity of an object so that it has a greater gravity per volume than that of terrestrial origin. 

 

Anyway I think I have taken up enough of your time.

Now who would really need the ability of infinite finite relativity without re-writing the laws of physics?     

 

It would ruin all the fun in the science community if you could do that!  hehe ;)

Regards   William Taggart Adip.Prof.Con.Phys.

 


The information contained in this document first published in 1978: Sub' publications 1985, 2002 (c) Ideas Unlimited

 

-----Original Message-----
From: rm@themarginal.com [mailto:rm@themarginal.com]
Sent: 28 March 2002 23:31
To: 'Thurlby Computers'
Subject: RE: (Speculative) but you may find it interesting (In HTML format)

 

Dear Mr Taggart,

I had a quick look at what you wrote to me and I think this is highly interesting. Your  might be just what I am looking for when I say in my 8 points that C needs to be readjusted to reflect the fact that C itself is relative to our point of view.

 

I will read your message and websites more in the next few days in order to understand completely what you are saying and see how I can use this in my ideas. (Of course I would credit you in any of my writings for any inspiration you might provide).

 

Please tell me, is this present message something you sent to many people or did you write it after reading my ideas and realising that I might have some similar ideas?

 

I mean, is this a personal message sent only to me? (In which case you are interested in my ideas and I can talk to you further), or has it been sent to many people (in that case you most probably did not read my website and it is just a coincidence if what you are saying is similar to what I say).

 

I need to know as well if we think alike or if our ideas are totally different. It would be surprising as I never met anyone who agreed with my ideas. I will know more in the next few days after reading you.

 

Thank you for answering me.

 

 

Note: you might want to rethink the way you send your messages, I almost deleted it thinking it was a publicity!

 

Merci!

 

Roland Michel Tremblay

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Thurlby Computers  

Sent: 29 March 2002 04:18

To: rm@themarginal.com

Subject: Re: your reply

 

Message Hi again,

Some of the information I posted is from a standard document I have, however when I read through your site I seen some similarities on what I been working on for quite a few years (Although the amount if time has no bearing on its validity)

>From what I seen on your site, it appears that you have been able to

>grasp

the meaning of a fixed range of observation. Sort of bubble of space time if your prefer that analogy.

Distance and scale:

How can classical physics interpret what we see. Lets say for an example you are standing at given point which we will call (A) and you look tot the horizon point (B).

You can see this scale effect with the naked eye.

Now if you travelled to a place which you could previously seen to be at point (B)

What has occurred?

1. That place appears to have got larger and is the same scale as you.

2. The horizon that was at point (B) has moved away from you proportionately to the distance travelled.

O.K so most people are ware of the conventional interpretation of this.

However lets look at this in TDM terms.

Classical physics states that each action has an equal and opposite reaction, in TDM terms the resistance of matter acting upon you as you move. Compresses your atomic/sub atomic structure. In doing so, instead of things getting larger as you get closer to them in actual fact you are getting smaller.

In other words your range of observation is compressed so that you are physically within the range of interaction of the given place.

This is easier to understand if you think of the universe in a true stable linear form. I.E each bubble of space time lined up end to end spanning from infinitely small to infinitely large. This means that any given point in space time has a TDS (Time density signature).

The TDS of a given object is what you would more commonly call gravity.

Why is TDS important, well basically this means that any given object within an infinite space time continuum has place in which it is totally stable, If everything was in this solid stable state we would have an infinite void.

However what we perceive is the given objects trying to obtain this state. The problem being that they never can. As the very action of trying to obtain that state. In turn has an equal and opposite reaction which increases or decreases there density in doing so there TDS has changed. Thus normal displacement attempts to displace to this new co-ordinate in space time, as you may have guessed this just repeats the process.

Although everything is subject to his the more dramatic example are super heavy gravitational objects such as black holes and white holes. Worm holes etc.

BTW black/whites are transient in space time, as there TDS is constantly changing.

Why are such space time occurrences important, well basically they are part of what we need to avoid a close loop scenario. In a close loop scenario the finite universe would keep gaining energy but there would be no place for it to go.

So the black/white holes act a bit like a Fawcett and drain that are linked together in a perpetual loop. As one part gains the other loses, keeping the balance.

In fact all matter works on this principle.

TDM throws some interesting twists on what Einstein said.

I am sure you are familiar with the question about the train travelling at light velocity and the person walks to the front of train. That Einstein stated that person would not be travelling faster than light.

Well in relative terms to the train. Passenger does not exceed light velocity. Yet he does exceed light velocity in relativity to the velocity of the train when compared to an external point in which the light velocity was measured by.

Basically in this situation the bubble of space time that is the passenger alters its TDS proportionate to its increase in velocity based resistance. To an observer on the train the person is walking at normal speed to an external observer of the train the person disappears for the and reappears at the front of the train.

Why did the person disappear and then re-appear to the external observer.

Well the scale range of observation of the external observer prevented him from seeing beyond his relative light velocity. However the person on the train is already at light velocity so when he moves normally his density range (TDS increases) this means that for the period of time whilst the person is moving. That persons TDS is too small to interact with the TDS of the external observer.

So if it is to small then it cannot be seen or touched. However when that person stops moving they once again return into the range of observation of the external observer.

However the person who was walking along the train just sees, a normal walk along a train. He is unaware that he has just shifted in space time.

It is only when he compares his watch to that of the external observer that he will realise that it has ticked slower proportion to the resistance acting upon him.

The laughable thigh is that we are performing this very task of time travel every single day of our lives and we don't realise it.

 

I.E how far away is the computer monitor that you are reading this text from?

1/4 of a metre, 1/2 metre. would you believe me if I said that screen could be several million light years away from you?

Do you think I am kidding?

Well I'm not, just think about what is relative.

So our finite universe is TDM state 0 , if the mass of that monitor was

7,500,000(10^53kg) The actual point in time where that monitor exists would be half way along the curvature of space time in TDM state 6. Travelling at a relative velocity O.5C . Or a pseudo superluminal velocity compared to you of 6.5 times greater than your velocity of light.

This comes from those equations that I posted to you.

btw the 10^53Kg is the current estimated mass of the finite universe.

You may notice that I quotes a subluminal (less than light) velocity. Well in the scale range that is TDM state 6. You would just see a normal universe thus in relative terms its mass would be such that its natural velocity would be half of that of the relative scale universe it exists in.

 

What you then do is to scale this back up. to that of our current finite universe and you would have the point in space time in which it directly interacts with.

So say for an example you were 59,999th of 100,000th the way along the curvature of space time, it exists at 1/2 thus would actually be several million light years away from you.

This would mean that the space time between you and the monitor would dramatically increase in density proportionate spanning the difference between the two locations.

This is the distortion of space time lambda part of the equations. I previously posted. Is also the principles exploited on a larger/smaller scale in wormholes etc.

A really simple way to visualise this displacement is to drop a stone in a bucket of water. The stone sinks to its natural level in doing so it displaces the water.

So basically the high density object tries to get to its natural level of interaction (Stable TDS), in doing so it displaces lower density objects. Thus starting off the TDS cycle I previously explained.

Some how I think that is enough for you to consider for the moment ;)

Please tell me if I am going to fast for you.

;)

Sorry if there are any typo's but it is now 04:16 hrs, and I am feeling a bit tired. (Yawn!)

Regards

William

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: rm@themarginal.com [mailto:rm@themarginal.com]

Sent: 29 March 2002 13:18

To: 'Thurlby Computers'

Subject: RE: your reply

 

Great,

Let me review your sites and messages and I will get back to you early next week.

I see you are like me, you never go to bed!

www.themarginal.com/relativity.htm

Merci!

Roland Michel Tremblay

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Thurlby Computers  

Sent: 29 March 2002 16:38

To: rm@themarginal.com

Subject: Re: your reply

 

BTW my site doesn't carry very much information on TDM. I took it down several months ago after the I.S.P complained about the amount of hits it was getting . It was effecting the whole server.

I have been considering placing it elsewhere, but have been to busy to do so.

Bed what's that? : D

Regards

William

 

-----Original Message-----
From: rm@themarginal.com [mailto:rm@themarginal.com]
Sent: 29 March 2002 17:41
To: 'Thurlby Computers'
Subject: RE: (Speculative) but you may find it interesting (In HTML format)

 

Dear William,

 

I did a search on the Internet on your name and saw your problems on some forums. Why do you bother writing in those forums? I never do because it always end up in some nightmares. (I am talking about literature forums, I never posted in scientific forums before). This said, I too will launch my own forum about literature in the next few days :) all on my own server.

I copied here your messages and I am answering between the lines...

 

RM

 

_______________________

 

 

 

Time Density Mass (T.D.M)

 

----------I read the first page on your website, there is not much. I can only say that from what I can understand you have a point and that it does sound very interesting.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thurlby Computers 
Sent: 28 March 2002 23:07
To: rm@themarginal.com
Subject: (Speculative) but you may find it interesting (In HTML format)
 

 

 Hi,

 

I was busy surfin' around various science sites when I found yours. I have been quite surprised to see just how many publications and websites had been inspired, by my relative scale approach to the universe back in the late 1970's. 

 

 

-------I could have been inspired by someone who was inspired by you, but I never read any websites and the only books I read were Stephen Hawking and Michio Kaku and an old Physics book for students I have around here. Could you have inspired these authors or Super Strings authors? (How successful was your book and/or ideas?)

 

 

After reading some of the contents of the site  I thought   you may find this little bit of speculative conjecture interesting :)

 

It allows infinite finite relativity, without altering any of the basic laws of physics.

 

 

You may notice that there are some unique mathematical symbols here, I have described them for you.

 

1.    

 

2.    

 

3.   

 

4.   

 

 

These 4 equations are the variations of the same theme. Basically they represent.

 

1. The obtained interaction with a given density per volume of space when decompression occurs of the original density per volume of space.

2. As above in reverse. Basically they are exactly the same thing.

3. In this case the given resistance on an object alter its density to that of a new location of interaction

4. The same as equation 3 but in reverse.

 

As you are fully aware that can be represented in just 2 equations.

 

Actually there is a deliberate mistake there. As when the given state increases in density you should subtract the value of 1 from the total. This value of 1 represents our current finite universe.

 

= The obtained TDM (Time density & Mass) state, or scale multiple of our finite universe.

= Lambda or the surrounding relative space.

  = The resistance acting upon the given object or volume of space.

M = the Given object.

 

 

This is an equation which return the pseudo superluminal velocity compared to your current relative TDM state (Finite universe). 

 

= obtained pseudo superluminal velocity, theoretical multiples of relative light velocity.

 

 

 

This is a variation on a well known equation which returns the pseudo energy value in Ergs. Or in classical physics terms when this equations are combine into a process it returns the principle of relative infinite energy.

 

Relative infinite energy= What appears to be infinite to our finite universe, however as I am sure you are aware this is not true infinity.

 

 

These equations allow you do something which physicists like to say is impossible. To plot and co-ordinates and show the given energy level of a an object in relative  terms anywhere in an infinite space time continuum.

 

The odd thing about it is that it fully complies and does not require you to re-write the laws of physics.

 

Basically It is a measuring process known as TDM (Time density & Mass). A sort of glorified tape measure. That allows you to theoretically plot any location  infinity. Although in reality you can't ever complete such task for every possible value as it would take an infinity to do so.

 

To explain but more simply what TDM does is to theoretically generate infinite parallel finite universes. There is nothing new in that multiverse theories have been around for some time. The difference with TDM is that it applies Density per volume. In other words one universe exists inside the other.

 

 

-----------Density per volume, in order words, is what defines the degree of relativity around you. Basically it is like my idea that depending on the gravity around you, where you are, (your lambda), and depending on the speed you are going at (your resistance on the object), you can calculate what the real relative C is for any given object. So I believe that we are talking the same language and that you have the background to write equations about it. So do you agree that objects can go faster than the speed of light?

 

 

-----------Now, what I am interested in is how do you go about calculating your lambda? (I suppose there is a simple already existing equation to calculate the resistance of an object... even though it is not coming to mind right now).

 

 

Another description is like a Russian doll, if you open it up you find another which is smaller inside, open that ands you find another yet smaller and so on.

 

What TDM exploits is a theoretical physical interpretation of one of Zeno's paradox's, Ulysses and the Arrow ( Which I am sure you are familiar with) 

 

-------------No, I am not familiar with this paradox. This probably proves to you how amateur I am.

 

Basically Zeno said that if Ulysses stood at a given point ( Which I will call point (a) ) and fired an arrow to a target (Which I will call point (b) ).  The then the flight of the arrow would be the full distance away from the target  (point (a) to point  (b).

 

As the arrow flew through the air it would be 1/2 the distance from point (b) , then 1/4 the distance form point (b) , 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 and so on for infinity,

 

What Zeno said it when does the arrow reach zero and hit the target  (Point (b) )

 

If fact it never does!

 

There has been many attempts to interpret this in physical terms over the many years since he produced it.  

 

 

------I was mentioning something similar on my page (but I got read of it two years ago): 

 

 

 _____________________

Summation Of An Infinite Series (Calculus)

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/The_rise_of_calculus.html:

"Archimedes constructed an infinite sequence of triangles starting with one of area A and continually adding further triangles between the existing ones and the parabola to get areas

A, A + A/4, A + A/4 + A/16, A + A/4 + A/16 + A/64, ...

The area of the segment of the parabola is therefore

A(1+1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + ....) = (4/3)A.

This is the first known example of the summation of an infinite series."

This was my comment at the time, I was supposed to get back to this to comment further, but I never did: "This principle of summation of an infinite series makes me think about how this could actually not be possible in mathematics, but in the way we picture the universe as well. I just said that there was not really any infinities in the universe, but we always managed to see a very large and a very small. In reality, you could do like Archimedes and end up with these infinities being equals to a finite number. " 

___________________________

 

However to this date nobody else has been able to represent it in physical form.

 

As you are aware, The Arrow never actually hits the target. It is only because our finite range of observation cannot see the other instances of space time that we get the illusion that it has. To make it even more awkward to understand the arrow never actually flew in the first place, but that is another level of understanding which can be a very steep learning curve. (I will assume however that you do understand it anyway)

 

Now if you replaced the ever smaller distances with scale representation of that given point of space time then the points of interaction begin to make sense however on the larger scale. In  TDM we use the finite universe as the scale increment of measurement . Although the difference between one point in space time and the next is the equivalent of an entire relative universe.

 

To describe simply TDM states that our finite universe is TDM state zero or  0

 

Higher density or smaller scale finite universes are  1, 2,3, 4, 5, 6 , 7 and so on infinitely

 

Lower density or larger scale finite universes are  -1, -2,-3, -4, -5, -6 , -7 and so on infinitely.

 

---------I believe that you are on to something here. I think this is exactly what I am thinking and that you might have provided some sort of way to calculate and even prove my theories. I was not expecting that. Do you have any way of proving your ideas? Is there some sort of experiment you could do to verify this? Any more applications that can be thought of?

 

I originally created TDM when I found that science became so vague when it hit this physical point of Zero or in other terms crosses the event horizon. In other words no way exists to describe such state of matter in relative finite physical terms.

 

What I wasn't expecting when I created it was to find the way to quantify gravity, explain the principles of space time, to produce situations that should defy causality but they don't , to describe infinity in finite terms etc etc etc, the uses of TDM are as infinite as that which it allows you to describe.

 

This just skims the surface of what TDM is and what it can do in conjunction with Classical physics. 

 

As an example of an interesting prediction that TDM makes, anti gravity is easier to achieve by increasing the gravity of an object so that it has a greater gravity per volume than that of terrestrial origin. 

 

 

Anyway I think I have taken up enough of your time.

 

 

 

 

Now who would really need the ability of infinite finite relativity without re-writing the laws of physics?     

 

It would ruin all the fun in the science community if you could do that!  hehe ;)

 

 

-------I was faced with the same dilemma. Can we just readjust the actual equations or do we start from scratch? And I realised that you only need to modify Einstein's equation (the C) and perhaps just use plain old Newton. I spoke about this on my French website. I recently started my page in French and all my last ideas are now in French. But I can translate them here if needed.

 

 

Regards

 

William Taggart Adip.Prof.Con.Phys.

 

 

__________________________

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Thurlby Computers  

Sent: 29 March 2002 04:18

To: rm@themarginal.com

Subject: Re: your reply

 

Message Hi again,

Some of the information I posted is from a standard document I have, however when I read through your site I seen some similarities on what I been working on for quite a few years (Although the amount if time has no bearing on its validity) 

 

---I understand. I have been working on my theories for about 5-6 years now.

 

>From what I seen on your site, it appears that you have been able to

>grasp the meaning of a fixed range of observation. Sort of bubble of space time if your prefer that analogy.

Distance and scale:

How can classical physics interpret what we see. Lets say for an example you are standing at given point which we will call (A) and you look tot the horizon point (B).

You can see this scale effect with the naked eye.

Now if you travelled to a place which you could previously seen to be at point (B)

What has occurred?

1. That place appears to have got larger and is the same scale as you.

2. The horizon that was at point (B) has moved away from you proportionately to the distance travelled.

O.K so most people are ware of the conventional interpretation of this.

However lets look at this in TDM terms.

Classical physics states that each action has an equal and opposite reaction, in TDM terms the resistance of matter acting upon you as you move. Compresses your atomic/sub atomic structure. In doing so, instead of things getting larger as you get closer to them in actual fact you are getting smaller.

In other words your range of observation is compressed so that you are physically within the range of interaction of the given place. 

 

----------The word compression et decompression is very nice. I use Shrinking and enlarge, but it is more appropriate to use your words. 

 

 This is easier to understand if you think of the universe in a true stable linear form. I.E each bubble of space time lined up end to end spanning from infinitely small to infinitely large. This means that any given point in space time has a TDS (Time density signature). 

 

---------------I agree with you. I don't suppose many people agree with this?

 

The TDS of a given object is what you would more commonly call gravity. 

Why is TDS important, well basically this means that any given object within an infinite space time continuum has place in which it is totally stable, If everything was in this solid stable state we would have an infinite void.

However what we perceive is the given objects trying to obtain this state. The problem being that they never can. As the very action of trying to obtain that state. In turn has an equal and opposite reaction which increases or decreases there density in doing so there TDS has changed. Thus normal displacement attempts to displace to this new co-ordinate in space time, as you may have guessed this just repeats the process.

Although everything is subject to his the more dramatic example are super heavy gravitational objects such as black holes and white holes. Worm holes etc.

BTW black/whites are transient in space time, as there TDS is constantly changing.

 

-------------I think I need to read your book. Where can I buy it? 

 

 Why are such space time occurrences important, well basically they are part of what we need to avoid a close loop scenario. In a close loop scenario the finite universe would keep gaining energy but there would be no place for it to go.

So the black/white holes act a bit like a Fawcett and drain that are linked together in a perpetual loop. As one part gains the other loses, keeping the balance.

In fact all matter works on this principle.

TDM throws some interesting twists on what Einstein said.

I am sure you are familiar with the question about the train travelling at light velocity and the person walks to the front of train. That Einstein stated that person would not be travelling faster than light.

Well in relative terms to the train. Passenger does not exceed light velocity. Yet he does exceed light velocity in relativity to the velocity of the train when compared to an external point in which the light velocity was measured by. 

 

-----------exactly! I talk a lot about this train idea and the platform on my website, later on in the page.

 

Basically in this situation the bubble of space time that is the passenger alters its TDS proportionate to its increase in velocity based resistance. To an observer on the train the person is walking at normal speed to an external observer of the train the person disappears for the and reappears at the front of the train.

Why did the person disappear and then re-appear to the external observer.

Well the scale range of observation of the external observer prevented him from seeing beyond his relative light velocity. However the person on the train is already at light velocity so when he moves normally his density range (TDS increases) this means that for the period of time whilst the person is moving. That persons TDS is too small to interact with the TDS of the external observer. 

 

-------------Yes, this is true.

 

So if it is to small then it cannot be seen or touched. However when that person stops moving they once again return into the range of observation of the external observer.

However the person who was walking along the train just sees, a normal walk along a train. He is unaware that he has just shifted in space time.

It is only when he compares his watch to that of the external observer that he will realise that it has ticked slower proportion to the resistance acting upon him.

The laughable thigh is that we are performing this very task of time travel every single day of our lives and we don't realise it.

 

I.E how far away is the computer monitor that you are reading this text from?

1/4 of a metre, 1/2 metre. would you believe me if I said that screen could be several million light years away from you?

Do you think I am kidding? 

Well I'm not, just think about what is relative. 

 

-------------I certainly don't, I had the same conversation with other people. We are thinking alike, there is no two ways about it. 

 

So our finite universe is TDM state 0 , if the mass of that monitor was

7,500,000(10^53kg) The actual point in time where that monitor exists would be half way along the curvature of space time in TDM state 6. Travelling at a relative velocity O.5C . Or a pseudo superluminal velocity compared to you of 6.5 times greater than your velocity of light. 

 

----------I am beginning to understand your point of view, and it is a bit different from mine. But it still makes sense and might correct some questions I had. I cannot remember now, I will have to get back to it.

 

This comes from those equations that I posted to you.

btw the 10^53Kg is the current estimated mass of the finite universe.

You may notice that I quotes a subluminal (less than light) velocity. Well in the scale range that is TDM state 6. You would just see a normal universe thus in relative terms its mass would be such that its natural velocity would be half of that of the relative scale universe it exists in.

 

What you then do is to scale this back up. to that of our current finite universe and you would have the point in space time in which it directly interacts with.

So say for an example you were 59,999th of 100,000th the way along the curvature of space time, it exists at 1/2 thus would actually be several million light years away from you.

This would mean that the space time between you and the monitor would dramatically increase in density proportionate spanning the difference between the two locations.

This is the distortion of space time lambda part of the equations. I previously posted. Is also the principles exploited on a larger/smaller scale in wormholes etc.

A really simple way to visualise this displacement is to drop a stone in a bucket of water. The stone sinks to its natural level in doing so it displaces the water.

So basically the high density object tries to get to its natural level of interaction (Stable TDS), in doing so it displaces lower density objects. Thus starting off the TDS cycle I previously explained. 

 

---------Ok, I see. Fascinating, but hard to understand. I need more.

 

Some how I think that is enough for you to consider for the moment ;)

Please tell me if I am going to fast for you. 

 

---------If I could read your book or your old website, that would help. If you have a problem finding a host for your pages, I would gladly give you a space on my website. I pay enough money (that I don't have) to make sure that too many visitors will never be a problem. (Of course I will never ask you for money).

 ;)

Sorry if there are any typo's but it is now 04:16 hrs, and I am feeling a bit tired. (Yawn!)

Regards

William

 

Merci!

 

Roland Michel Tremblay

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thurlby Computers 
Sent: 29 March 2002 19:23
To: rm@themarginal.com
Subject: Re: (Speculative) but you may find it interesting (In HTML format)

 

99% of those posts in various forums are completely bogus, a few idiotic persons thought it would be funny to impersonate me. Oh well I guess that's the nature of the NET. You will always get some people with a very weird sense of humour.

 

Occasionally I do go to those forum's to get the webmasters to clean the crap off there sites. However it got pointless because more was just posted. So I left them to it. They will get bored eventually, when I don't respond to the flame bait. 

 

Your comment about a personal forum reminds me, I must update mine and get it running again.

 

I will warn you in advance  beware of posters that go under the names of, Bruce, Casimir, Simple Mind and Bailey. They can completely destroy science boards with their bogus posts and flame bait.

 

Regards    William

 

-----Original Message-----
From: rm@themarginal.com [mailto:rm@themarginal.com]
Sent: 29 March 2002 19:30
To: 'Thurlby Computers'
Subject: RE: (Speculative) but you may find it interesting (In HTML format)

 

I gathered as much from what I read. It convinced me to not go anywhere near these forums...

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thurlby Computers 
Sent: 29 March 2002 22:48
To: rm@themarginal.com
Subject: Some of the questions I managed to decipher

 


Blue= your questions

Silver= my original post

Black= my replies to your questions


 

----------The word compression et decompression is very nice. I use
Shrinking and enlarge, but it is more appropriate to use your words.

 

Compression and decompression just fits better with classical physics terms,

However your term is just as valid.

 

 

This is easier to understand if you think of the universe in a true
stable linear form. I.E each bubble of space time lined up end to end
spanning from infinitely small to infinitely large. This means that any
given point in space time has a TDS (Time density signature).

 

---------------I agree with you. I don't suppose many people agree with
this?

 

I am surprised why so many people have problems with this since the likes of Kip Thorne, Stephen Hawking etc have said very similar things in recent years.

 

Why is TDS important, well basically this means that any given object
within an infinite space time continuum has place in which it is totally
stable, If everything was in this solid stable state we would have an
infinite void.

However what we perceive is the given objects trying to obtain this
state. The problem being that they never can. As the very action of
trying to obtain that state. In turn has an equal and opposite reaction
which increases or decreases there density in doing so there TDS has
changed. Thus normal displacement attempts to displace to this new
co-ordinate in space time, as you may have guessed this just repeats the
process.

Although everything is subject to his the more dramatic example are
super heavy gravitational objects such as black holes and white holes.
Worm holes etc.

 

 

I think I need to read your book. Where can I buy it?

 

Sadly it was never an open publication, generally though certain anonymous transcripts of it just sort of turned up in various research labs ;)

 

 

TDM throws some interesting twists on what Einstein said.

I am sure you are familiar with the question about the train travelling
at light velocity and the person walks to the front of train. That
Einstein stated that person would not be travelling faster than light.

Well in relative terms to the train. Passenger does not exceed light
velocity. Yet he does exceed light velocity in relativity to the
velocity of the train when compared to an external point in which the
light velocity was measured by.

 

-----------exactly! I talk a lot about this train idea and the platform
on my website, later on in the page.
 

I will have to go and read your analogy on that.

 

I.E how far away is the computer monitor that you are reading this text
from?

1/4 of a metre, 1/2 metre. would you believe me if I said that screen
could be several million light years away from you?

Do you think I am kidding?

 

-------------I certainly don't, I had the same conversation with other
people. We are thinking alike, there is no two ways about it.

 

Its interesting to see just how many people are able to understand this,

although sadly the ability to visualise  things in non-local terms is quite

a rare gift. I'm sure you have run into this problem. I.E. Things that you take

for granted others have great difficulty in even grasping the basics of.

 

 

So our finite universe is TDM state 0 , if the mass of that monitor was

7,500,000(10^53kg) The actual point in time where that monitor exists
would be half way along the curvature of space time in TDM state 6.
Travelling at a relative velocity O.5C . Or a pseudo superluminal
velocity compared to you of 6.5 times greater than your velocity of
light.

 

----------I am beginning to understand your point of view, and it is a
bit different from mine. But it still makes sense and might correct some
questions I had. I cannot remember now, I will have to get back to it.
 

There are surprising similarities in our view points. However when I created TDM

it was working form the premise that there is no need to alter classical physics since

it works so well within the finite universe. In other words if it works don't fix it
 

By using the finite universe as the basic scale increment of measurement. This means that no matter what relative scale you are in. Then the relative laws of physics apply (With exactly the same action & results).

 

The benefit of taking this approach is that you are not challenging classical physics. You are just extending its capability. So the relative term of infinity is no longer boundary or a brick wall that classical physics smashes into.  The other stuff  such as being able to quantify gravity, explain the complexities of space time etc are just welcome side effects of this extension to physics.

 

The one thing I always liked about TDM is its ability to explain things in simple everyday terms. I.E to understand the principles you don't have to be educated to the level of a  Doctor or be a Professor of physics.

 

One important thing to remember about any theories that address these issues. They must be Covariant. Or in other words the given equations etc must be able to work in any given scale no matter what the values are. 

 

Einstein's GR & SR are good examples of covariant Theories. 

 

TDM proves its covariance. when you consider that the TDM states could be measured in scale Elephants and it will still work ;)

 

 This is the distortion of space time lambda part of the equations. I
previously posted. Is also the principles exploited on a larger/smaller
scale in wormholes etc.

A really simple way to visualise this displacement is to drop a stone in
a bucket of water. The stone sinks to its natural level in doing so it
displaces the water.

So basically the high density object tries to get to its natural level
of interaction (Stable TDS), in doing so it displaces lower density
objects. Thus starting off the TDS cycle I previously explained.

 

---------Ok, I see. Fascinating, but hard to understand. I need more.
 

Basically everything in an infinite space time continuum has its set size, set scale, etc which has a defined point that it is always trying to get to. The problem being that in trying to get to that stable point interactions with other objects alters its structure. So with each interaction it has a new point in space time in which it is stable.  Thus it can never obtain that stable point. 

 

If all matter was to obtain this stable point  then no reactions would occur and you would have an infinite void. In classical physics terms this is the pre-big bang state of the universe

 

BTW space time is not as linear as we think it is, a reaction that creates an object can occur after the object already exists.

 

Its a bit like saying that you have just seen your great grand father being born. Logically to our single finite range of observation we would say that this isn't possible.

 

 

---------If I could read your book or your old website, that would help.
If you have a problem finding a host for your pages, I would gladly give
you a space on my website. I pay enough money (that I don't have) to
make sure that too many visitors will never be a problem. (Of course I
will never ask you for money

 

 

Why tank you, but  I think I have sorted out the problems with my I.S.P on that server now.

I am currently creating an up to date  Plain English version of TDM. ( I always hated the way that certain scientific papers exclude 90% of the population just because they don't understand advanced mathematics or scientific terminology)  Actually at the moment I am trying to create a Flash based space time distortion simulator. Which will visually show  TDM  shift in action.

 

Regards   William

 

-----Original Message-----
From: rm@themarginal.com [mailto:rm@themarginal.com]
Sent: 29 March 2002 23:25
To: 'Thurlby Computers'
Subject: RE: Some of the questions I managed to decipher

 

Am I allowed to copy all of our conversation on my website, including what you told me about the definition of your theory?

 

I usually ask this question and I am OK with people who prefer to keep it confidential.

 

Please read below.

 

Its interesting to see just how many people are able to understand this,

although sadly the ability to visualise  things in non-local terms is quite

a rare gift. I'm sure you have run into this problem. I.E. Things that you take

for granted others have great difficulty in even grasping the basics of.

 

 

=====Tell me about it. They are rarely even willing to listen. Some do but still cannot visualise it or perhaps they can but keep coming back to the mainstream way of looking at things. To be honest I don't think anyone can visualise Einstein's way at looking at the universe, they just accept it because it is sort of proven in their eyes.

 

 

So our finite universe is TDM state 0 , if the mass of that monitor was

7,500,000(10^53kg) The actual point in time where that monitor exists
would be half way along the curvature of space time in TDM state 6.
Travelling at a relative velocity O.5C . Or a pseudo superluminal
velocity compared to you of 6.5 times greater than your velocity of
light.

 

=======So TDM state 6 means 6 times the speed of light?

 

 There are surprising similarities in our view points. However when I created TDM

it was working form the premise that there is no need to alter classical physics since

it works so well within the finite universe. In other words if it works don't fix it
 

By using the finite universe as the basic scale increment of measurement. This means that no matter what relative scale you are in. Then the relative laws of physics apply (With exactly the same action & results). 

 

==========So what happens in a Black Hole from your point of view?  

 

 

---------Ok, I see. Fascinating, but hard to understand. I need more. 


 

Basically everything in an infinite space time continuum has its set size, set scale, etc which has a defined point that it is always trying to get to. The problem being that in trying to get to that stable point interactions with other objects alters its structure. So with each interaction it has a new point in space time in which it is stable.  Thus it can never obtain that stable point. 

 

If all matter was to obtain this stable point  then no reactions would occur and you would have an infinite void. In classical physics terms this is the pre-big bang state of the universe

 

BTW space time is not as linear as we think it is, a reaction that creates an object can occur after the object already exists.

 

Its a bit like saying that you have just seen your great grand father being born. Logically to our single finite range of observation we would say that this isn't possible.

 

 

===========This sounds very interesting. I have never thought of this and I will think about it further.

 

 

I am currently creating an up to date  Plain English version of TDM. ( I always hated the way that certain scientific papers exclude 90% of the population just because they don't understand advanced mathematics or scientific terminology)  Actually at the moment I am trying to create a Flash based space time distortion simulator. Which will visually show  TDM  shift in action.

 

==========I look forward looking at all that.

 

Regards    William

 
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: TDM [mailto:tdm@thurlbycomputers.co.uk]
Sent: 30 March 2002 06:46
To: rm@themarginal.com
Subject: Re: Some of the questions I managed to decipher

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:25 PM

Subject: RE: Some of the questions I managed to decipher


 

Am I allowed to copy all of our conversation on my website, including what you told me about the definition of your theory?

 

You are more than welcome to!

 

I usually ask this question and I am OK with people who prefer to keep it confidential.

 

Please read below.

 

 

Its interesting to see just how many people are able to understand this,

although sadly the ability to visualise  things in non-local terms is quite

a rare gift. I'm sure you have run into this problem. I.E. Things that you take

for granted others have great difficulty in even grasping the basics of.

 

 

=====Tell me about it. They are rarely even willing to listen. Some do but still cannot visualise it or perhaps they can but keep coming back to the mainstream way of looking at things. To be honest I don't think anyone can visualise Einstein's way at looking at the universe, they just accept it because it is sort of proven in their eyes.

 

I think you have hit the nail on the head, most people just blindly accept. An interesting point though. Einstein never was a brilliant mathematician, He was like myself a Conceptual Physicist ( An ideas man)  but to get his ideas accepted he had to go back and learn almost everything that he was disproving with his publications.

Unlike Einstein I found myself in a unique position with TDM. I did not have to learn everything else unless I really wanted to. Because the very nature of TDM already encompasses all of classical physics. I.E. 1 TDM state is all the science that human kind has ever devised (The finite universe) and according to TDM there are infinite scale versions of them. This unique property also means that to disprove TDM you must disprove every fundamental law of physics.

 

So what happens if the definition of the finite universe changes as science moves on?

 

Well again TDM automatically adjusts with it.

 

Considering its basis is so simple, its turning out to be one of the most robust physics theories ever devised. No matter what you throw at it in physics terms, when combined with classical physics it can produce an answer. 

 

So even question like what is zero point energy becomes almost as easy to answer as primary school maths. 

 

So our finite universe is TDM state 0 , if the mass of that monitor was

7,500,000(10^53kg) The actual point in time where that monitor exists
would be half way along the curvature of space time in TDM state 6.
Travelling at a relative velocity O.5C . Or a pseudo superluminal
velocity compared to you of 6.5 times greater than your velocity of
light.

 

=======So TDM state 6 means 6 times the speed of light?

 

Essentially each TDM state is a finite scale related universe. 

 

So working  from TDM state zero (Our current finite universe).

 

The TDM scale  spans like this

 

 

 

In higher density (smaller scale versions of our finite universe)   

 

TDM states  |   Pseudo Velocity |  Local Relative velocity

 

TDM state 0     0 to C                       0 to C

TDM state 1     1C to 2C                   0 to C

TDM state 2     2C to 3C                   0 to C

TDM state 3     3C to 4C                   0 to C

TDM state 4     4C to 5C                   0 to C

TDM state 5     5C to 6C                   0 to C

TDM state 6     6C to 7C                   0 to C

TDM state 7     7C to 8C                   0 to C

 

and so on into infinite possible TDM states and infinite possible pseudo superluminal velocities.

 

 

In lower density (larger scale versions of our finite universe)   

 

TDM states  |   Pseudo Velocity |  Local Relative velocity

 

TDM state 0       0  to C                       0 to C

TDM state -1     -1C to -2C                   0 to C

TDM state -2     -2C to -3C                   0 to C

TDM state -3     -3C to -4C                   0 to C

TDM state -4     -4C to -5C                   0 to C

TDM state -5     -5C to -6C                   0 to C

TDM state -6     -6C to -7C                   0 to C

TDM state -7     -7C to -8C                   0 to C

 

and so on into infinite possible TDM states and infinite possible pseudo superluminal velocities.........

 

 There are surprising similarities in our view points. However when I created TDM

it was working form the premise that there is no need to alter classical physics since

it works so well within the finite universe. In other words if it works don't fix it
 

By using the finite universe as the basic scale increment of measurement. This means that no matter what relative scale you are in. Then the relative laws of physics apply (With exactly the&nb